Comments on: Jaunty Jackalope and openBVE http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678 Railsimroutes.net Blog and Progress Updates - Bringing you closer to the light at the end of the tunnel... Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:53:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: HOWTO: openBVE on (Ubuntu) Linux « atylmo's Blog http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-38 HOWTO: openBVE on (Ubuntu) Linux « atylmo's Blog Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:08:37 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-38 [...] you just want it to work: openBVE is available in Ubuntu’s repository now (as of 9.04, see here), but it lags behind the official version. Everything is installed automatically and it works [...] [...] you just want it to work: openBVE is available in Ubuntu’s repository now (as of 9.04, see here), but it lags behind the official version. Everything is installed automatically and it works [...]

]]> By: Anthony_B http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-37 Anthony_B Thu, 07 May 2009 19:51:28 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-37 Thanks for looking in to this for me. Actually I found another way that works on both my ATi and nVIDIA equipped systems; there's a handy command line utility called xgamma included already, so I just opened a terminal and entered "xgamma -gamma x.xx", which solves the problem. In GNOME, by going to System > Preferences > Startup Applications, I can add the command there as well, so it's executed at each login. I'm happy now. :) I've also added new pages to my <a href="http://railsimroutes.net/openbve/" rel="nofollow">openBVE Help Guide</a> which explain to beginners, how to install Ubuntu via Wubi, setup ATi/nVIDIA drivers, and install openBVE for use with Wine or via the Add/Remove method. The Wubi part aside, Windows isn't needed at all if the guide is followed. :) Thanks for looking in to this for me. Actually I found another way that works on both my ATi and nVIDIA equipped systems; there’s a handy command line utility called xgamma included already, so I just opened a terminal and entered “xgamma -gamma x.xx”, which solves the problem. In GNOME, by going to System > Preferences > Startup Applications, I can add the command there as well, so it’s executed at each login. I’m happy now. :)

I’ve also added new pages to my openBVE Help Guide which explain to beginners, how to install Ubuntu via Wubi, setup ATi/nVIDIA drivers, and install openBVE for use with Wine or via the Add/Remove method. The Wubi part aside, Windows isn’t needed at all if the guide is followed. :)

]]> By: lezzloco http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-36 lezzloco Sun, 03 May 2009 19:41:37 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-36 Just realized you need it for ATI !, there is a similar file amdpcsdb, in tha ATI folder, but no mention of gamma in it, but it does look like a possible. Just realized you need it for ATI !, there is a similar file amdpcsdb, in tha ATI folder, but no mention of gamma in it, but it does look like a possible.

]]> By: lezzloco http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-35 lezzloco Sun, 03 May 2009 19:31:48 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-35 Oh I think gamma isn't set in Xorg.conf after all, found a file .nvidia-settings-rc, it may be what you need it has stuff like this in it 0/RedGamma=1.000000 0/GreenGamma=1.000000 0/BlueGamma=1.000000 0/DigitalVibrance[CRT-1]=0 0/ImageSharpening[CRT-1]=0 0/XVideoTextureSyncToVBlank=1 0/XVideoBlitterSyncToVBlank=0 good luck Oh I think gamma isn’t set in Xorg.conf after all, found a file .nvidia-settings-rc, it may be what you need it has stuff like this in it

0/RedGamma=1.000000
0/GreenGamma=1.000000
0/BlueGamma=1.000000
0/DigitalVibrance[CRT-1]=0
0/ImageSharpening[CRT-1]=0
0/XVideoTextureSyncToVBlank=1
0/XVideoBlitterSyncToVBlank=0

good luck

]]> By: lezzloco http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-34 lezzloco Fri, 01 May 2009 23:22:34 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-34 Cant recommend any software for gamma problem, best way if possible, is to nail it in the xorg.conf, I have been trying ubuntu 9.04, today, but 1st install locked up, 2nd wont find ATI hardware or locks up before it does, ATI in linux has a mind of its own, at the moment in my opinion, so am going to test on other comp with Nvidia, which seems bullet prof in linux, I will do some testing on X-city as I have been using NWM lately for testing, but X-City always runs faster than NWM in linux anyway you run it, other way round in windoz. Cant recommend any software for gamma problem, best way if possible, is to nail it in the xorg.conf, I have been trying ubuntu 9.04, today, but 1st install locked up, 2nd wont find ATI hardware or locks up before it does, ATI in linux has a mind of its own, at the moment in my opinion, so am going to test on other comp with Nvidia, which seems bullet prof in linux, I will do some testing on X-city as I have been using NWM lately for testing, but X-City always runs faster than NWM in linux anyway you run it, other way round in windoz.

]]> By: Anthony_B http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-33 Anthony_B Fri, 01 May 2009 21:49:37 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-33 Hi. :) The new 323 will also have seats added soon. I'm busy adding 3D trees to the X-City scenery at the moment, but work on the 323 will resume after the scenery is finished. :) Hi. :)

The new 323 will also have seats added soon. I’m busy adding 3D trees to the X-City scenery at the moment, but work on the 323 will resume after the scenery is finished. :)

]]> By: Anthony_B http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-32 Anthony_B Fri, 01 May 2009 21:37:22 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-32 I'm pleased to say that I've got openBVE v1.0.4.1 running in Wine with Mono 2.4 for Windows now, thanks for your help. :) Okay, this is embarassing, but when I ran the Wubi installer last time, I must have forgotten to add the '--32bit' command line argument, meaning I downloaded the AMD64 ISO without realising. I've re-installed with the 32-bit version and all is well now, with v1.0.4.1 running on both my ATi and nVIDIA equipped systems. :) Actually this <em>can</em> be quite easy to setup in Ubuntu after all. <p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>Edit:</strong> The slightly trickier bit is getting the required DLLs. OpenAL's installer can be run in Wine and the DLLs copied to openBVE's directory (although I found that openBVE still worked with these DLLs just left in Wine's System32 directory); then I downloaded the tar.gz version of the Tao Framework and just extracted the necessary DLLs from the archive and placed those in the openBVE directory.</p> The remaining installation on my AthlonXP 2400+ / GeForce system was otherwise simple, just a case of installing the nVIDIA proprietary driver via Adminstration > Hardware Drivers, installing Wine via 'Add/Remove...', configuring the Windows version to Windows 2000 (actually it might have defaulted to this anyway), installing Mono 2.4 for Windows ("Mono for Windows, Gtk#, and XSP", via the Mono website http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html) in Wine, changing to the right directory and and running 'wine OpenBve.exe' in a terminal, or simply by right-clicking the OpenBve.exe icon and selecting the <em>Open with "Wine Windows Program Loader"</em> menu item. No problems (apart from issues already known about). The same can be said for my Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and Radeon system, although on my initial try, Wine was so slow it was almost unusable, and when executed caused Xorg to permanently use 100% of one of my CPU cores for no obvious reason. I noticed that after running Wine, the display on my second monitor (a CRT) started momentarily blanking every half-second or so, and I figured that maybe the fglrx/ATI driver recommended via Adminstration > Hardware Drivers was to blame, so I removed it and installed ATI's latest proprietary Linux driver from www.ati.com instead. After doing this, I'm pleased to say Wine + Mono 2.4 for Windows + openBVE v1.0.4.1 is giving me acceptable framerates. It's not quite as fast as Paul's Ubuntu build, but it's okay--in XCS v1.4 with the same scenario mentioned in the blog entry, I see up to 25 fps rather than 30 fps in cab, and 13 fps rather than 19 fps in the external view, with 8xAA, 16xAF, and plugins functional. Either way, I'm glad to have it working at last. :) One annoyance I do have, is that the gamma setting I configure via the Catalyst Control Centre keeps getting reset to default after reboot, or after launching openBVE (or even just clicking on it's window sometimes). Can you recommend any utilities which force the gamma setting to be preserved? I’m pleased to say that I’ve got openBVE v1.0.4.1 running in Wine with Mono 2.4 for Windows now, thanks for your help. :) Okay, this is embarassing, but when I ran the Wubi installer last time, I must have forgotten to add the ‘–32bit’ command line argument, meaning I downloaded the AMD64 ISO without realising. I’ve re-installed with the 32-bit version and all is well now, with v1.0.4.1 running on both my ATi and nVIDIA equipped systems. :)

Actually this can be quite easy to setup in Ubuntu after all.

Edit: The slightly trickier bit is getting the required DLLs. OpenAL’s installer can be run in Wine and the DLLs copied to openBVE’s directory (although I found that openBVE still worked with these DLLs just left in Wine’s System32 directory); then I downloaded the tar.gz version of the Tao Framework and just extracted the necessary DLLs from the archive and placed those in the openBVE directory.

The remaining installation on my AthlonXP 2400+ / GeForce system was otherwise simple, just a case of installing the nVIDIA proprietary driver via Adminstration > Hardware Drivers, installing Wine via ‘Add/Remove…’, configuring the Windows version to Windows 2000 (actually it might have defaulted to this anyway), installing Mono 2.4 for Windows (“Mono for Windows, Gtk#, and XSP”, via the Mono website http://www.go-mono.com/mono-downloads/download.html) in Wine, changing to the right directory and and running ‘wine OpenBve.exe’ in a terminal, or simply by right-clicking the OpenBve.exe icon and selecting the Open with “Wine Windows Program Loader” menu item. No problems (apart from issues already known about).

The same can be said for my Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and Radeon system, although on my initial try, Wine was so slow it was almost unusable, and when executed caused Xorg to permanently use 100% of one of my CPU cores for no obvious reason. I noticed that after running Wine, the display on my second monitor (a CRT) started momentarily blanking every half-second or so, and I figured that maybe the fglrx/ATI driver recommended via Adminstration > Hardware Drivers was to blame, so I removed it and installed ATI’s latest proprietary Linux driver from http://www.ati.com instead. After doing this, I’m pleased to say Wine + Mono 2.4 for Windows + openBVE v1.0.4.1 is giving me acceptable framerates. It’s not quite as fast as Paul’s Ubuntu build, but it’s okay–in XCS v1.4 with the same scenario mentioned in the blog entry, I see up to 25 fps rather than 30 fps in cab, and 13 fps rather than 19 fps in the external view, with 8xAA, 16xAF, and plugins functional. Either way, I’m glad to have it working at last. :)

One annoyance I do have, is that the gamma setting I configure via the Catalyst Control Centre keeps getting reset to default after reboot, or after launching openBVE (or even just clicking on it’s window sometimes). Can you recommend any utilities which force the gamma setting to be preserved?

]]> By: S04000905?CL323 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-31 S04000905?CL323 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:43:00 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-31 hello me see the LT1995_openbve the train to seem me play Cl323_openbve effect very good you to add a place to sit? hello
me see the LT1995_openbve
the train to seem me play Cl323_openbve
effect very good
you to add a place to sit?

]]> By: lezzloco http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-30 lezzloco Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:04:38 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-30 I willl check out Wubi, it would be Kool to be on the same page, wine / mono is verg nice, change wine profile to win 2000 before you install mono for windows, never seen it work here, any other way. I willl check out Wubi, it would be Kool to be on the same page, wine / mono is verg nice, change wine profile to win 2000 before you install mono for windows, never seen it work here, any other way.

]]> By: Anthony_B http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-29 Anthony_B Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:43:54 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-29 Personally I install *ubuntu using Wubi. Being a relatively inexperienced Linux user (beyond <em>safely</em> experimenting with my own webserver, setting up a Linux based firewall and editing configuration files, I've not learned the operating system in depth yet), I find Wubi to be very handy, and if I mess things up while experimenting, it's very easy to restore a backup of the installation if I've made one (what a terrible cheat I am!). I want to have a system dedicated solely to Linux at some point as it'll encourage me to learn the operating system in more depth without being tempted to run home to Windows whenever I have one of those dreaded "Argh, I haven't got time for this" moments, although I don't have enough spare hardware for this right now. I had a quick go at installing Wine, mono and running openBVE, and ran into problems (admittedly I didn't read any instructions and wasn't too serious about trying), but I will look into it again properly when I've more time--I don't think X-City fans would be too thrilled to find out that I'd been spending all my spare time playing with Linux instead of finishing the route and the 323! :D Personally I install *ubuntu using Wubi. Being a relatively inexperienced Linux user (beyond safely experimenting with my own webserver, setting up a Linux based firewall and editing configuration files, I’ve not learned the operating system in depth yet), I find Wubi to be very handy, and if I mess things up while experimenting, it’s very easy to restore a backup of the installation if I’ve made one (what a terrible cheat I am!). I want to have a system dedicated solely to Linux at some point as it’ll encourage me to learn the operating system in more depth without being tempted to run home to Windows whenever I have one of those dreaded “Argh, I haven’t got time for this” moments, although I don’t have enough spare hardware for this right now.

I had a quick go at installing Wine, mono and running openBVE, and ran into problems (admittedly I didn’t read any instructions and wasn’t too serious about trying), but I will look into it again properly when I’ve more time–I don’t think X-City fans would be too thrilled to find out that I’d been spending all my spare time playing with Linux instead of finishing the route and the 323! :D

]]> By: Lezzloco http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678&cpage=1#comment-28 Lezzloco Sat, 25 Apr 2009 14:17:44 +0000 http://railsimroutes.net/blog/?p=678#comment-28 Its nice to see you have been using Linux, I only got ATI hardware working properly today ! (thanks to a lot of help from the Puppy Linux forum), I have had a wine .net / mono custom linux (Nvidia only but ATI soon) available for some time now, and using mono alone, I get faster performance than in windowz (although I do need to do more testing, and getting ATI working is going to help a lot) My custom Linux doesn't need a hard drive install (and its only 230 meg), you don't even need a hard drive in the computer, if routes / traction is on a USB pen drive. The idea of people installing an OS on the hardware always put me off a full install, (Linux people wont be bothered by that I know), but I always put my mind in "newbie" refugee form windozs mode, it's got to be brainless, and safe. Using wine / .net works fine (but about 20 -40% slower), and I always found it very easy to install / sort out, unlike mono which was a pig from the start !, but a new mono package turned up for Pupppy linux a couple of weeks ago, and all the problems went (with some help from the openBVE forum). My preferred way to run in Linux now, is with wine / mono for windoz, all the plug ins seem to work, and there's virtually no performance hit compared to wine / .net It's a good time to be into BVE ! Its nice to see you have been using Linux, I only got ATI hardware working properly today ! (thanks to a lot of help from the Puppy Linux forum), I have had a wine .net / mono custom linux (Nvidia only but ATI soon) available for some time now, and using mono alone, I get faster performance than in windowz (although I do need to do more testing, and getting ATI working is going to help a lot)

My custom Linux doesn’t need a hard drive install (and its only 230 meg), you don’t even need a hard drive in the computer, if routes / traction is on a USB pen drive.

The idea of people installing an OS on the hardware always put me off a full install, (Linux people wont be bothered by that I know), but I always put my mind in “newbie” refugee form windozs mode, it’s got to be brainless, and safe.

Using wine / .net works fine (but about 20 -40% slower), and I always found it very easy to install / sort out, unlike mono which was a pig from the start !, but a new mono package turned up for Pupppy linux a couple of weeks ago, and all the problems went (with some help from the openBVE forum).

My preferred way to run in Linux now, is with wine / mono for windoz, all the plug ins seem to work, and there’s virtually no performance hit compared to wine / .net

It’s a good time to be into BVE !

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